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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2002 6:30 am
by xor
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I am evaluating OrbForms Designer at the moment, so I can't create and load a program on my Palm. I was wondering if someone could tell me what the size of a general standalone app is. By general I mean something along the lines of half a dozen forms, a database. My little test application generated a .prc file, but it's not a standalone application, it requires the runtime, and I don't know how close in size the two would be. Also, am I right in thinking that OrbForms Designer allows you to create standalone apps that don't require a runtime?
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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2002 6:41 pm
by Admin
OrbForms Designer's language is based on the PocketC design and added new concepts like object, handlers etc. The compiled bytecode still need a small vm to execute the code. The standalone prc file actually contains a small vm builtin. The size is around 65k. The plan is to divide object-based API framework into even smaller native binary files that can be packaged together depending on the actual usage.

A program written in native C code and compiled with CodeWarrior will be much smaller. However look at the rapid application development perspective, and compare with other products like NSbasic, and Appforge's runtime, 65k is a small overhead.

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I am evaluating OrbForms Designer at the moment, so I can't create and load a program on my Palm. I was wondering if someone could tell me what the size of a general standalone app is. By general I mean something along the lines of half a dozen forms, a database. My little test application generated a .prc file, but it's not a standalone application, it requires the runtime, and I don't know how close in size the two would be. Also, am I right in thinking that OrbForms Designer allows you to create standalone apps that don't require a runtime?
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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2002 2:53 am
by xor
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Thank you Admin!
I do like OrbForms Designer so far. I have installed CodeWarrior and was working my way through the tutorials, but I find C kind of yucky to work with still (I'm a java programmer), not to mention the price! I do appreciate PocketC as a language, I think it's very java-programmer-friendly. I also have purchased PDAToolbox, which is even more RAD than OrbForms Designer, but lacks the flexibility/power you get from being able to hand-code as well. It's good for some things, but not for everything that I want to do which is why I am here trying OrbForms :)

It looks like the Desktop version of PocketC has a standalone compiler (is that right?), does the onboard version of PocketC have a standalone compiler as well?
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2002 1:29 am
by dewey
PocketC Desktop Edition can build standalone apps, but the compiler that runs on the device cannot.